A Test on Advent History

Adventist History /Prophecy Test Yes or no answer only!

Study to  shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.  2 Timothy 2:15.KJV.

Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. Amos 3:7.KJV.

1. I can explain Jeremiah 6:16 and the “old paths.”

2 .I can explain why the 3 angels are tests for us in the last days, what they are, and their experience.

3. I know the riddle about what 5 are fallen, 1 is, and one is yet to come in Revelation 17.

4 .I know when “The Midnight Cry” occurred and what it is, and how it relates to the “Loud Cry”.

5. I can give a study on the 7 trumpets and 3 woes in Revelation 6-9.

6. I know what happened during “The Glorious Manifestion of 1840-1844.”

7. I know what the way-marks are in Adventist history.

8. I can tell you about Josiah Litch’s prediction in 1840.  See Great Controversy   pg. 334,335

9.I can give a study on the Daily ( Paganism ) in Daniel 8.

10 I know what the seven thunders in Revelation 10 are describing and how they repeat.  See 7A 971

11. I know what 1290 day/year and 1335day/year represent in Daniel 12:11, 12.

12. I know what it means to give “line upon line” Bible study in Isaiah 28:10

13. I can explain the 1843 and 1850 charts  and their components.

14. I know what Hiram Edson and William Miller demonstrated about the 7 times in Bible prophecy.

15. I can give a study on the 2520 day /year prophecy.

16   I know what it means that “you must prophecy again” in Revelation 10.

17. I know what the dual meaning of  “mene,mene, tekel, upharsin”.

18. I know what the triple application of prophecy is.

19 I can give a study on Daniel 11:40-45 “ the King of the North” and “The Glorious Land.”

20 I can explain the “Latter Rain Message” and the experience of it. See Deut. 32:2 and Job 29:23

21. I can describe the “little book” is in Revelation 10.

22. I can show you examples of “ two witnesses”, so a thing will be established. 2Co 13:1.

23. I can tell you what” the increase of knowledge” is in Daniel 12:4.

24. I can tell you what it means when the “four winds are held in check” in Revelation. Rev 7:1

25. I am familiar with William Millers dream and what it represents in Early Writings. page 82

26. I know what the “east wind” is in Ezekiel 37.

27.  I know what the “angry horse” represents. {3SM 409.1}

28.  I can explain how Jesus and my relationship relates to Bible prophecy.

29.  I can draw these 3 “Lines of reformation, Pentecost, Millerite, and Our Final Line of Reformation.”

The work of God in the earth presents, from age to age, a striking similarity in every great reformation or religious movement. The principles of God’s dealing with men are ever the same. The important movements of the present have their parallel in those of the past, and the experience of the church in former ages has lessons of great value for our own time.”  {GC88 343.1}

Daniel and Revelation must be studied, as well as the other prophecies of the Old and New Testaments. Let there be light, yes, light, in your dwellings. For this we need to pray. The Holy Spirit, shining upon the sacred page, will open our understanding, that we may know what is truth. . . . {TM 112.1}

30. I can explain this verse  “ And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.” Dan.12:3 KJV.

 

What was your score?­­­­­­________/30

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11 Responses to A Test on Advent History

  1. Ryan Hill says:

    Hi Peggy, I noticed on your website that you speak of Litch’s prediction regarding the fall of the Ottoman empire in 1840. Have you tried to reconcile this prediction with evidence from historical sources. I understand that the Convention of London occured around that date, but historians today essentially show that fall of the Ottoman Empire occured around 81 years after the predicted date.

    God bless.
    Ryan

    • serve says:

      Hi Ryan. Mrs. White said that the event perfectly fulfilled the prediction. So if you don’t believe it… Mrs. White is a false prophet. I choose to believe her!

      God Bless,
      Glenn

  2. Ryan says:

    Hi Glenn, I think I understand your position: you believe Ellen white. Yet simple logic dictates that, since the fall of the ottoman empire is a Historical event, it should be easy to confirm the date using independent sources. Else anyone can claim anything, much like Harold camping did last year. I will shortly post a quote from Ellen white on her view about herself as a historian

    • serve says:

      Dear Ryan… Some years back, a friend of mine was in England, and went to a large public library. His purpose was to see if there were any newspapers or anything dating back to the 1840′s and the Ottoman Empire. He told the librarian what he was looking for and she found it actually quite fast! He saw with his own eyes that yes… it was as our pioneers reported it as well as Uriah Smith. Think about it brother… how could this not happen and be the catalyst that let the world see that the Adventist’s of the day had the Year-Day Principal correct?!! This one event empowered the movement. The Catholic church has for years, been removing history from libraries making it harder to research the past. But, we have a prophet that does not lie. She said the event perfectly fulfilled the prediction. Case closed brother!

  3. Ryan Hill says:

    Thanks Glenn, but not so easy brother. You’re refering to the Morning Chronicle, a London newspaper. Don’t forget that the historians have also had access to these newspapers. They are after all public sources. Yet, they have failed to concur with Litch’s position. As is clear from the archives of history, the Empire fell about 80 years later. Here are some well known dates around the Empire at the time:

    1. In June 1840, the entire Ottoman navy defected
    2. The Convention of London was signed on 15 July 1840
    3. In September 1840, the European powers eventually moved from diplomatic means to military action
    4. After the Royal Navy and the Austrian Navy first blockaded the Nile delta coastline, they moved east to shell Sidon and Beirut on 11 September 1840.
    5. France switched sides and aligned against Muhammad Ali in October 1840
    6. Muhammad Ali finally accepted the terms of the Convention on 27 November 1840
    7. When on August 11, 1840, the Ottoman Empire accepted guarantees from the Great Powers, it was interpreted as a fulfillment of Bible prophecy and Litch’s interpretation thereof.
    8. Litch slowly abandoned the historicist view of prophecy, in favor of futurism. He attended the Prophetic Conference held at the Church of Holy Trinity, in New York City, Oct. 30–Nov. 1, 1878

    Finally, it is worth being aware of EGW’s own view, FWIW, of her take on history:
    Letter from WCWhite to SNHaskell, circa 1912.
    http://www.whiteestate.org/vault/Haskell.html
    The first line says: Regarding Mother’s writings, she has never wished our brethren to treat them as authority on history. When Great Controversy was first written, she often times gave a partial description of some scene presented to her, and when Sister Davis made inquiry regarding time and place, Mother referred her to what was already written in the books of Elder Smith and in secular histories.

    • serve says:

      Well brother…. If you want to re-write history.. that is your choice. If I can not believe a simple statement that Mrs. White made when she said, the event perfectly fulfilled the prediction.. then what do I have to stand on? May I ask you then… What is the second woe? What was the first woe?

      Where it says in your link, ” Mother never thought that the readers would take it as an authority on historical dates….” I have to tell myself that this is not the prophet speaking. Mrs. White was fully capable to tell us exactly what she wanted to say. God was at liberty to tell us through her what He wanted… and He did.

      Today, people quote James White as if he were inspired because he was married to the prophet. Does not work for me.

    • serve says:

      Dear Ryan….

      I have thought all day today about what you have written. I will not quote SOP as I am sure you are well versed. There are many ways to document that the event as it was predicted, empowered the Millerite Movement in 1840. This empowerment happened because the world at large witnessed the fulfillment of a prediction. They… [those outside of the movement] verified – themselves, that Josiah Litch actually hit pay dirt to the day. This showed the validity of the year-day principal. If you can not verify this today… it makes no difference. The fact of the matter is, that hundreds and thousands of people outside this movement were able to see – of their own accord, this prediction FULFILLED. All that has been written on this subject could not have been written about something that did not really happen! You are wrong. You have woven together a series of statements that are false. I have received the kind of factual evidence that you say does not exist. I doubt it would change your view of this topic. As Jesus said… they will not believe even if someone rise from the dead. The angels restrained Islam… or… Mohammedan’s in 1840.

      You talk about “simple logic”…. who’s logic… yours? Or is this more of… your thoughts alone. Again… Just because you claim that you can not confirm this historical event is no conclusion that it did not happen. The numbers are against you – big time. You talk about anyone else making claims…. well brother… you are the one making claims here. The evidence is not with you.

      In your statement of Ellen’s own view… You are not quoting her! You are quoting hear-say. The Great Controversy is a book we hold up as highly accurate, brother. Let me ask you a question… Are you a Seventh-day Adventist? Or do you pretend to be one in here? A real Member of the Remnant church is just like the beginning… he/she believes what the pioneers believed and taught. Do you?

      glenn

      • Brian says:

        I am not trying to get into the midst of your argument here, but the comment about ” A real member of the Remnant Church is just like the beginning… believes what the PIONEERS believed and taught” was somewhat startling to me. The Remnant is not as the early Advent church was, but is as the early apostolic church. Most of our pioneers didn’t keep the Sabbath for quite some time, did not believe in the Godhead (which some today still don’t) and thought that the Huns were one of the 10 divisions of the roman empire, though historically they came far to late, among other things. The point of the comment is that if we are idolizing the MEN who God USED to start this movement and are seeking them as our standard, we are not going to rise to the potential that God desires us to. You may have not meant your statement that way, I have of late heard so many, though, that are exalting the pioneers and seemingly looking at their writings as inspired, saying we must go back to the beginning. Well how far, stop keeping Sabbath? start eating pork? we have been growing since our prophetic birth into what we were before the dark ages By no means am i seeking to put them down, they were great men/women of God. Just check out the 1888 GC session though. There was so much unChristlike behavior that sister White had to rebuke. Or the story of Hannah More. We need to, by God’s grace, rise above the level of growth they had. As long as we look to the Word of God and the SOP we are able to walk in His light. Remnant=Apostolic church, not early Advent church. Hope the point is not taken wrongly. We are to share in love and not attack those who are confused or don’t see things the way we see them. Love is the fulfilling of the law. 1Jn_4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

        • serve says:

          Dear brother, The comment about the remnant was simply to say, that we will be like the pioneers.. in many ways, but not limited to what they believed. We will have a spirit that studies… we will believe everything on the 1843 and 1850 charts, minus the mistake. Yes to many things you said. God Bless you. :)

  4. Ryan says:

    Hi Glenn, thanks for your thoughtful response. Please have a close look at the link http://www.whiteestate.org/vault/Haskell.html
    In particular, see http://www.whiteestate.org/vault/EGW_Approval.jpg
    Your prophet has indeed spoken in this case.
    I shall bother you no more.

    God bless
    Ryan

    • serve says:

      Dear Ryan… You give yourself away by your words… “your prophet…” Thank you brother for filling me in on this. Have a good day and thank you for wasting my time.

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